Carlson pressed Dawn Laguens about her thoughts on abortion extinguishing a fetal heartbeat and whether a fetus whose sex is different from his mother's is part of the mother's body. She didn't answer Carlson's questions directly, instead repeating unrelated pro-abortion talking points.

"If you can hear the fetal heartbeat, and then it's extinguished, what do you think of that? Is that a big deal or not to you? And if not, why not?" asked Carlson.

"Well, I take seriously all of the healthcare work that we provide at Planned Parenthood," Laguens replied. "I believe in safe, legal abortion. I believe it's up to each woman and individual."

Carlson asked Laguens, "What is a fetus? Is it a separate entity?"

She responded, "I would say that it's up to each woman to decide whether—you and I can differ on this all day, Tucker, and that's fine."

"You're refusing to say what you think," he pressed her. "Is it a separate being or is it a piece of flesh that's part of the woman?"

"What I'm going to say is that 70 percent of Americans, uh, believe that Roe v. Wade should be the law of the land," she answered. 

Carlson also asked Laguens if she ever wonders about abortions on babies with heartbeats—the vast majority of abortions, given that fetal heartbeats start as early as 21 days after fertilization. (Image via Pinterest)

"People say the life is being taken," said Carlson. "Do you think that?"

She replied, "I personally favor safe, legal abortion in this country decided on by each individual woman and her doctor to decide for themselves. I personally do not believe that that is a viable fetus at that point."

"I'm not saying it's viable; at five and a half weeks it's not," said Carlson. "But you can hear the heartbeat. Is that a human being or not?"

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